Category: Geeks r Us
Okay. Okay.
I have said this wouldn’t happen, but I was wrong.
Microsoft is getting pushy for you that insist on holding on to your Windows 7 or 8.
Read this article to learn how to make it go away if you’ve not already changed settings to stop the notices.
http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-windows-10-upgrades-get-more-sneaky-pushy/
I'd love it but I haven't got the right jaws version so until I bother to upgrade, I should read this article. Lol
Thanks Wayne.
Yes. You can go back, but it be a pain.
I keep just dismissing the insescent notifications, because I do intend tu upgrade ... eventually. As we are getting close to the end of the free upgrade, I guess I better do it sooner rather than later? I do have JAWS 17. I'm mostly concernned about program compatability for mainstream games. Otherwise I'm okay to upgrade. I didn't mind windows 8 once I instaled classic shell, and if all Windows 10 is is a hybrid of Windows 7 and 8, I'd be alright with that. I've got a lot of stuff to back up though, and I have a feeling restoring it - programs and settings and plugins, oh my, will be a process. So I've been putting it off. That, and because it's a new OS, I figured there would probably be bugs to iron out.
It will actually keep all your stuff if you select that option.
I've only had one problem, and believe it or not, that is with Outlook 2016? Um, Microsoft?
That problem only started happening 3 weeks ago when something updated.
2016 will not connect to the exchange server in my case anymore.
We are talking both my computers.
I spent about 8 hours in several sessions, working with a Microsoft tech on the problem, and we did everything but change my computer to a new one.
Nope.
Had to go back to 2013. Not a big deal, but still Microsoft?
Maybe this summer when the new 10 comes down the pipe, they'll have fixed this exchange issue.
You'll not have to pay even when they start charging.
Ed G posted an article from Microsoft accessibility that says Microsoft won't charge people like us.
So, even if you aren't made switch, and it looks like if you're not careful, one morning, you'll have Windows 10, you'll still not need to pay later.
So, fix that, or get to backing up.
Smile.
Hi, have read the article. I tried to cancel the notification and the update. I somehow managed to reserve it instead. I'll try and cancel it again, but the only problem is NVDA gets stuck. I mean there is hardly any speech, or it won't read anything properly, even if I use the arrows, I have to tab around which doesn't help much. So, how do I solve this problem? I'm using windows 8.1.
Thanks in advance.
You can do this a couple ways.
Read this board post, it will give you instructions.
disable the "get windows 10" app
That is here on the Zone under this topic heading.
If you just want it done, simply contact answer desk.
They have a regular one, or one for people with disabilities. Either will work.
You chat with them much like here.
• Disability Answer Desk
You can chat with them, and allow them remote access. They’ll either tell you, or do it for you.
The main page for all of this is
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us
These links may not work, so just copy them, or type in
www.support.microsoft.com
Well, I've heard it's better to just do a fresh install in order to have a fresh install of Windows. that's supposed to make things run better, as usually happens after a reformat. I admit I haven't researched this all that much, because as I said, I've been putting it off. My laptop really does need a bit of a cleanse, though.
I have done it both ways.
I like the fresh install, because it clear up any junk you may have, and the machine will be set basic, so you can build it just like you want.
It is a fresh start.
Any glitches will be erased, and sure, the machine will run cleanly.
Now, if you've got a clean running machine and it isn't cluttered, you can choose the keep everything, but if you want fresh, go ditch it all, and rebuild.
All the programs will be currect and such.
luckily I haven't anything to worry about as I'm already using 10 in VMware fusion on the mac side of things. If there is one thing that I wished that would fix is that all your documents and stuff even under program files is red only. for surtain things, like for example, replacing a txt file with a new one under program files you will get an error saying access is denyed. Also, when I tried to do what I have red on other websites, setting everything to full control, I get errors. So, that's something you may want to watch out about. I mean, yeah you can go under properties and stuff to set everything to full control but I have hurd that that setting is not saved so if you restart, it's back to red only status again.
I don't know about the Mac, but when I see the access isdenyed message, I also have options to continue with admin rights.
On a PC, 10 is pretty smooth really, and works well.
I see that too, but like I said, if your trying to replace a txt file or something within program files or whatever you will get an access is denyed message and you'll probably be forced to save it to the documents folder because the access is set to red only
Windows 10 really is a smooth experience. As I've said on othe rtopics, if you haven't updated, you really should, providing your screen reader of choice is up-to-date. There was a small learning curve from windows 7 to windows 10, but it really wasn't as big a deal as people said it was going to be. Yes, there are things that need fixing, but well, there were things that needed fixing in windows 7 too, and there were even more things that needed fixing and probably still do need fixing in windows 8. Besides, everyone has to remember, Windows 10 is the new future for Microsoft. It's going to be the only thing they update soon enough when they drop support for windows 7 and 8 within the next few years. I'd guess that they'll probably move to windows 10 only by 2018. So, people will have to just bite the bullet and update soon anyway.
I like it much and use it daily.
I honestly can't see the benefits of remaining with 7 or 8, unless it is a screen reader update cost issue.
Other then that, it goes well.
I have heard, but not scene, that a small group of older computers have problems with the update.
I don't mean real old, just a few years, but I suspect these were limited machines to start with, if in fact that problem still exist.
So, I agree with the last post strongly.
At post 12, you might want to take a look at the take ownership registry hack that can be found at askvg.com. It installs an option in your context menu that will allow you to have ownership over any set of files and folders you want. Obviously, use it wisely, and, if it breaks, you keep both pieces. But if the notifications are bothering you that much, it's something that's worth looking into. Another option you have is to disable UAC completely, not just from the dedicated setting, because that doesn't actually get rid of it completely in versions of Windows beyond 7, but via the group policy editor. If you want to go this route, and there are plenty of people who would yell and scream about how bad of an idea this is, I can provide instructions. But even I would say that a novice user, or anyone who's remotely uncomfortable tweaking things on a PC shouldn't be messing with stuff like this. If you're reasonably acquainted with Windows and its functions, though, I would be more than happy to help.
The post from John I left has a tool that does it for you.
Oh and I'd like to put a vote in for GreenTurtle.
Read some of her other post on computer issues to see she's worthy.
Smile.
OK gang, I know this is late, but when I click "cansil" the link doesn't work. I can also see the reschedule date but can't seem to get past that. I use jaws 15, which is obviously why I can't upgrade yet. Any ideas?
At this point, you really need to get in and ditch it.
Just get help doing so. The process as pointed out isn't something many people want to deal with.
Try the tool, or just get some support.
When speaking to a tech, explain why you need it to go away.
Rescheduling it is fine, but that doesn't solve the main issue.
I was having a discussion about this issue.
It made me wonder if Microsoft might face a class action suit.
They don’t own the equipment, but are dictating changes.
Sure, this is an update like all others we agree to allow them to offer, but if you’re not careful, it changes your property completely.
Microsoft will assist you to return it to the previous state, or do it for you, but that won’t exactly work for the blind.
The reason is, if you don’t have the proper screen reader installed, once your system shows the update, your screen reader will be removed, because it is not Windows 10 able.
That means, you can’t call and receive help from the answer desk, because you can’t operate your computer at all.
If you don’t have transportation to the nearest Microsoft store, you will have to hire, or get help from another source.
Sure, if you keep resetting the install times, you avoid it, but miss, or click the wrong thing, and you’ll install it.
Go away the day, or weekend, and it might be on when you return.
Just some thoughts.
Ah Wayne, sorry; I found a tool eventually and it worked thank God.
I was stressing because I knew the update was scheduled for soon and I couldn't change it.
You do have a point about Microsoft having a law suit against them for this and I did also wonder about it.
That's something I actually never thought of.
That page has come up for me a few times, I just alt F4 out of it.
I know it'll keep appearing, but I'm not really all that bothered by it to be honest.
I'm not even sure if I'll update at this point, I'm almost due for a new PC, so might just update then.
My main concern with this free update is, there doesn't appear to be a way to install windows from scratch unless Microsoft have given us the tools to make our own windows images. CD rom drives are slowly being fazed out.
I wonder how they install windows on machines like the surface pro?
That doesn't have a cd drive, I suppose there's still the external drives.
I actually like how apple handel their OS.
Download and install off the net using internet recovery, but I guess when you control the hardware, you can do that sort of thing.
When I baught win 10 back on my b day last year, it came on a usb flash drive. You would boot from that and then install it. Or you could probably use that talking windows PE installer to at least get NVDA going and then try installing 10. I had to download the iso image though, because I installed mine in a vm, and fusion wouldn't work with the flash drive, but it did accept my key. I'm running it just fine, it's win10 32 bit, although I do have the 64 bit iso image too, pluss that also came on the flash drive.
Right. You can also download it to any media you want it on.
If is a file like any other file.
Great on finding that tool. I understand the stress.
After ignoring the pop-up like some on here, I realized that if we don't want Windows 10, we'd better use the tool that's recommended here to disable it or get help from a Microsoft tech to do so. If we don't, as has been said, we might wake up one morning, quite literally, to find Windows 10 on our system.
I'm happily keeping Windows 7 till such time that I'm forced to upgrade (whether by getting an updated screen reader/computer, or Microsoft finds another way to make us).
Hi all:
I would enjoy freshly installing Windows 10 on my Lenovo computer, as Jaws takes forever and is sluggish. Apparently, in order to gain performance improvements, this is necessary. My question is that I know there is a method of installing an operating system without help. Isn't it the talking installation tool from Brian Smart?
Thanks in advance.
If you visit Blind Bargains, there is a detailed article prepared by Scott Davert stating that users of assistive technology will have an extended free upgrade period beyond July. Go to www.blindbargains.com for more info. HTH.
I have heard there was a tool, but I've personally never found it.
Installing Windows 10 fresh is pretty easy even for us.
You can do everything until the computer restarts at the end.
If you had some way to tell it was finished, you could probably even do that.
Here's the thing. Any seeing person can tell you when it is ready for your input at the end.
It is about 3 clicks, and it is ready.
Okay, so now you need your screen reader.
Before you do a fresh install, download the correct screen reader, and leave the installer file in your downloads.
Go to your desktop, you don't need to hear it, just do the keystroke.
Type the letter D and you get to your downloads folder.
Open it and click again, because all you should have there is the screen reader file.
It will start and the talking installer will finish.
Now you are ready to setup your computer as far as your default browser and whatever.
You are on a college campus, and have roommates right?
Just go to the computer lab, os ask a roomy to say when it is ready for these 3 clicks and do them for you.
Somethings are given, like it remembers the WiFi settings.
Now you have a clean machine.
Note, it will remove all the company stuff, so anything you like, you need to put someplace so you can reinstall it.
Well, for what it's worth, I've been using 10 for the past few days after a clean install. So far I have no issues with it. It's a lot like 7, with the things I liked about 8. I don't find that my life is "better" after upgrading, though I do love the ability to easily reformat my hard drive. WIndows 8 had that too of course.
Okay. Someone did sue Microsoft and won 10K.
A person gets a $10K payout from Microsoft for an unauthorized Windows 10 upgrade
http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-pays-woman-10000-over-forced-windows-10-install/?ftag=CAD5920658&bhid=20930693028028866890103492065767